Joseph Carrie Fisher

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 29 Dec 1893 - 20 Lawson Place, Dundee, Forfarshire ¹³⁵¹ Christening: Death: 4 Dec 1954 - 1 Dudhope Place, Dundee, Angus ( aged 60) ¹³⁵² ^,1353 Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Occupation: Child Protection Officer.

• Census: 1901, 31 Mar 1901, 10 S George Street, St. Andrews parish, Dundee, Forfarshire.

• Residence: At time of David Fisher's (Born 1895)enrolment at Morgan Academy, 17 Aug 1908, 16 North Ellen Street, Dundee. ¹³⁰⁹ (Occupant)

• Census: 1911 Census, 2 Apr 1911, 35 North Wellington Street, Clepington, Dundee, Forfarshire. ¹³⁰³ (Household Member)

• Occupation: Jute Twine Twister, 2 Apr 1911, Dundee, Angus, Scotland. ¹³⁰³

• Occupation: Shop Assistant, 25 Feb 1925. ¹³¹⁷ ^,1354

• Residence: 25 Feb 1925, 18 Kinloch Terrace, Dundee, Forfarshire. ¹³¹⁷

• Occupation: Assistant at Charity Organisation Society, Dundee, Angus, Scotland. ¹³¹⁶

• Occupation: Probation Officer, 1931, Dundee, Angus, Scotland. ¹³¹⁶

• Residence: At time of daughter, Margaret's birth, 30 Jun 1932, 17 School Road, Downfield, Dundee. ¹³⁰⁵

Parents

         Father: David Robertson Fisher (1861-1937) ¹³⁰³ 
         Mother: Elisabeth Reid Stewart (1857-1917)

Spouses and Children

1. Beatrice Wilson (16 May 1886 - 15 Jun 1926) ¹³⁵⁵^,1356 
       Marriage: 25 Feb 1925 - Bethelfield Manse, Kirkcaldy, Fife ¹³⁵⁷

2. *Isabella Gair Milne (22 May 1909 - 15 Apr 1996) ⁵^,1306 
       Marriage: 22 Jul 1931 - (A Manse), Dundee, Angus ¹³⁵⁸
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Irene Carrie Fisher (1933-2020)
                3. Living
                4. Living
                5. Evelyn Fisher (1949-1990)

Notes

General:

Joe Fisher was part of the Highland Light Infantry in the war, but put in for a transfer to the Highland Cyclists battalion, since they did not have to wear kilts!
He spent a portion of the war in India (earning the India General Service Medal with the clasp "Afghanistan – North West Frontier" in the process). He apparently learned to swim in the Red Sea on his passage out to India - men who couldn't swim were thrown into the sea, literally having to learn to "sink or swim".
He wore glasses through much of his life. This would have delayed his entry into the war (and possibly saved his life). He never fought in a battle in his time in the army (a blessing, certainly for us, his descendants).
Up until January 1916, men wearing glasses were generally barred from joining the Army. From this date, the rules changed - allowing Joe to enter the war. I assume he may well have joined around this point.
Conscription Categories in the Great War
From Military Service Act - 27th January 1916.
On 27th January, 1916, the Military Service act became law, ever man between the ages of 18 and 41, if unmarried, was 'deemed to have enlisted'. On 25th May, married men were 'deemed' to have done the same. The following categories were established:
A: General Service.
B1: Garrison Service Abroad.
B2: Labour Service Abroad.
B3: Sedentary Work Abroad.
C1: Garrison Service at Home Camps.
C2: Labour Service at Home Camps.
C3: Sedentary Service at Home Camps.
The Official History records the physical standards defining each category:
A: Able to march, see to shoot, hear well and stand active service conditions.
B: Free from serious organic diseases, able to stand service on the lines of communication in France, or in garrisons in the tropics.
B1: Able to march five miles, and see to shoot with glasses and hear well.
B2: Able to walk five miles to and from work, see and hear sufficiently for ordinary purposes.
B3: Only suitable for sedentary work.
C: Free from serious organic disease, able to stand service conditions in garrison at home.
In contemporary usage, a 'Category Man' was anyone assigned to a category below 'A'.
An expanded definition of B1 duties is as follows:
"B" (i) Fit for Garrison units, Divisonal Employement Coys, Area Employement (Garrison Guard) Coys,, Labour Coys employed at the front, NCOs as Perminent Staff of Reinforcement Camps and Conv Depots, Men in employement in lieu of RAMC Nursing or General Duty Ordelies and Stretcher Bearers on LoC.
He was awarded three medals for his war service. The Victory Medal, the India General Service Medal with the clasp "Afghanistan - North West Frontier" (see above) and the British War Medal. He did not value these medals a great deal, since they were handed out to everyone who served in those areas, just for being there!

Living

      Sex: F

Parents

         Father: Joseph Carrie Fisher (1893-1954) ⁵^,1305 
         Mother: Isabella Gair Milne (1909-1996) ⁵^,1306

Spouses and Children

1. *Anthony Geoffrey Pitt (12 Jan 1934 - 23 Jun 1984) ⁵ ^,991 Marriage:

Marriage Events

• Census: 1961, Bryngwenllian, Whitland, Carmarthenshire. ¹³⁵⁹

• Census: 1971, Downfield, Trevaughan Lane, Whitland, Carmarthenshire. ⁹⁹⁷

• Census: 1981, Downfield, Trevaughan Lane, Whitland, Carmarthenshire. ⁹⁹⁷ Children: 1. Living 2. Living 3. Living

Martha Fisher

      Sex: M

Individual Information

     Birth Date: Cir 1825
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

       Children:
                1. Eliza Fisher (Abt 1846-      )

Mary Fisher

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Abt 1865 - Dundee, Angus, Scotland ¹³⁶⁰ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Census: 2 Apr 1871, 147 Rosebank Street, Dundee, Forfarshire. ¹¹¹⁷

Parents

         Father: Alexander Fisher (Cir 1800-1893) ⁸¹⁷^,1294 
         Mother: Elizabeth Hunter Robertson (1828-1893) ⁸¹⁷

Mary Ann Fisher

      Sex: F

AKA: Mary Fisher ¹³³⁷

Individual Information

Birth Date: 28 May 1837 - Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire ¹³³⁷ ^,1338 ^,1340 ^,1361 Christening: 4 Jun 1837 - Caputh, Perthshire, Scotland ¹³³⁸ Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: At the time of Mary Ann Fisher's baptism, 4 Jun 1837, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³⁴⁰ (Occupant)

• Census: 1841 Census, 6 Jun 1841, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³³⁷ ^,1338 (Household Member)

• Census: 1851 Census, 30 Mar 1851, North Street, Dundee, Scotland. ¹²⁹⁴ (Household Member)

• Census: 1861 Census, 7 Apr 1861, Newton Villa, Blairgowrie, Perthshire, Scotland. ¹³⁶¹

• Occupation: House keeper, 7 Apr 1861, Newton Villa, Blairgowrie, Perthshire, Scotland. ¹³⁶¹

Parents

         Father: William Fisher (Cir 1802-Bef 1851) ¹³³⁷^,1338 
         Mother: Anne Stewart (1799-1873) ¹³³⁷^,1342^,1343

William Fisher

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1802 - Cargill, Perthshire ¹³³⁷ ^,1338 Christening: Death: Bef 31 Mar 1851 ¹³⁴² Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Baptism: 10 Jun 1802, Cargill, Perthshire. ¹³³⁸ ^,1362

• Residence: At the time of John Fisher's baptism, 14 May 1825, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³⁴⁸

• Residence: At the time of Mary Ann Fisher's baptism, 4 Jun 1837, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³⁴⁰

• Census: 1841 Census, 6 Jun 1841, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³³⁷ ^,1338

• Occupation: Agricultural Labourer, 6 Jun 1841, Mill of Muckly, Caputh, Perthshire. ¹³³⁷ ^,1338

Parents

         Father: James Fisher (      -Bef 1864) ¹²⁹⁸^,1299 
         Mother: Janet Thomson (      -Bef 1864) ¹²⁹⁸^,1299^,1300

Spouses and Children

1. *Anne Stewart (1799 - 1873) ¹³³⁷^,1342^,1343 
       Marriage: 29 Oct 1824 - Caputh, Perthshire, Scotland ¹³⁶³
       Children:
                1. John Fisher (1825-1902)
                2. Jean Archer Fisher (1827-      )
                3. Isabella McLaren Fisher (1830-      )
                4. Mary Ann Fisher (1837-      )
                5. Jessie Fisher (1839-1867)

William Fisher

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 15 Oct 1830 - Kinnoull, Perthshire ²⁶⁵ ^,1294 Christening: 24 Oct 1830 - St. Martins, Perth, Scotland ²⁶⁵ Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Census: 1851 Census, 30 Mar 1851, North Street, Dundee, Scotland. ¹²⁹⁴ (Household Member)

• Occupation: Carpenter, 30 Mar 1851, Dundee, Angus, Scotland. ¹²⁹⁴

Parents

         Father: Alexander Fisher (Cir 1800-1893) ⁸¹⁷^,1294 
         Mother: Isabella Mitchell (Cir 1798-Between 1851/1857) ¹²⁹⁴

Anne Forbes

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: 13 Jun 1790, Parish of Crathie and Braemar, Aberdeenshire. ¹³⁶⁴

• Residence: 17 Jan 1793, East Balgillo, Tannadice, Forfarshire. ¹³⁶⁵

Spouses and Children

1. *William Ker (       -       ) ⁷⁶¹^,770 
       Marriage: 13 Jun 1790 - Crathie And Braemar, Aberdeenshire ⁷⁶¹^,770
       Children:
                1. Alexander Kerr (Cir 1791-      )
                2. William Gair (Cir 1793-1866)
                3. Ann Ker (Cir 1795-      )
                4. James Ker (1805-      )
                5. Elizabeth Ker (1809-      )

David Forbes

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Occupation: Farm servant. ¹³⁶⁶

Spouses and Children

1. *Barbara Culbert (       -       )
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Jane Forbes (Cir 1816-1897)
                2. Mary Forbes (Abt 1825-      )

Jane Forbes

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1816 - Farnell, Forfarshire ⁸⁸⁹ ^,935 Christening: Death: 5 Sep 1897 - Arbroath, Forfarshire ( aged about 81) ²⁹⁴ Burial: Cause of Death: Cerebral haemmorhage (15 days)

Events

• Residence: at the time of marriage, 1 Jul 1839, Kinnell, Forfarshire. ⁸⁹⁰

• Residence: at time of Jean Milne's baptism, 1849, Mains of Dun, Forfarshire, Scotland. (Occupant)

Parents

         Father: David Forbes (      -      ) 
         Mother: Barbara Culbert (      -      )

Spouses and Children

1. *John Milne (Abt 1816 - ) ⁸⁸⁹ Marriage: 1 Jul 1839 - Kinnell, Forfarshire ²⁶⁵ ^,890

Marriage Events

• Census: 7 Apr 1861, Eastgate, Kirkden, Forfarshire. ²⁹⁷

• Census: 1881, 14 Millgate Loan, Arbroath, Angus. ⁷² Marriage Notes

The marriage date on the record is possibly false.

The marriages used the language "(Groom Name and Parish) and (Bride Name and Parish) were contracted on (Date). Some of the records earlier had a date for contracted and dates later for the actual marriage date.

The two preceding entries were both Contracted on 1st July. Jean Forbes and John Miln were contracted on 1st July. It is a reasonable assumption that Jane and John were actually married on 1st July (June being a clerical error).

Their banns at John's parish, St. Cyrus, were read on 26th May, 2nd June and 9th June adding credibility to this theory.

Children: 1. Christina Milne (1842- ) 2. Ann Milne (Abt 1843- ) 3. Mary Milne (Abt 1845- ) 4. Jean Milne (1849- ) 5. Susan Milne (1851- ) 6. James Milne (1855- ) 7. Jemima Milne (1860- )

Mary Forbes

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Abt 1825 - Farnell, Forfarshire ²⁹⁶ ^,1367 Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Census: 6 Jun 1841, Leys Of Dun, Dun, Forfarshire. ¹³⁶⁷

• Occupation: Female servant, 6 Jun 1841. ¹³⁶⁷

• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Seatown Of Usan, Craig, Near Montrose, Forfarshire. ²⁹⁶

• Occupation: Servant, 30 Mar 1851. ²⁹⁶

• Census: 7 Apr 1861, Eastgate, Kirkden, Forfarshire. ²⁹⁷

• Occupation: Domestic servant, 7 Apr 1861. ²⁹⁷

Parents

         Father: David Forbes (      -      ) 
         Mother: Barbara Culbert (      -      )

Spouses and Children

1. *Andrew Milne (23 May 1828 - 13 Feb 1906) ⁸⁹⁰^,1368 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Charles Milne (1848-1916)

Hannah Ford

      Sex: F

Individual Information

     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

1. *Samuel Lock (       -       )
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Deborah Lock (1843-1922)

John Francis Ford

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1848 - Llanfrechva, Monmouthshire Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Census: 1881, 3 Apr 1881, Green Meadow, Llangattock, Monmouthshire.

• Occupation: Tin Plate worker, 3 Apr 1881, Llangattock, Monmouthshire.

Spouses and Children

1. *Jane Lewis (Cir 1849 -       ) ⁵ 
       Marriage: Jun Q 1880 - Newport Registration District, Monmouthshire

William Forty

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1828 - Llanellen, Monmouthshire ¹²⁶ ^,128 Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Census: 1841, 6 Jun 1841, Panta House, Glascoed, Monmouthshire. ¹²⁶

• Occupation: Servant, 6 Jun 1841, Panta House, Glascoed, Monmouthshire. ¹²⁶

• Census: 1851 Census, 30 Mar 1851, Cwmoody Cottage, Llanfihangel Pontymoile, Monmouthshire. ¹²⁸ (Household Member)

• Occupation: Agricultural Labourer, 30 Mar 1851, Llanfihangel Pontymoile, Monmouthshire. ¹²⁸

Betty Foster

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: at time of marriage, 31 Aug 1807, Kirkham, Lancashire.

• Residence: at time of son James' baptism, 23 Feb 1819, Kirkham, Lancashire.

Spouses and Children

1. *Curwen Penrith (Cir 1787 - Sep 1841)
       Marriage: 31 Aug 1807 - St. Michael, Kirkham, Lancashire
       Children:
                1. Anne Penrith (Cir 1809-      )
                2. James Penrith (1819-1879)

Living

      Sex: F

Parents

         Father: William Alexander Fotheringham (1901-1949) 
         Mother: Dorothea Ferguson Machin (1902-1987)

Spouses and Children

1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living

William Alexander Fotheringham

      Sex: M

Individual Information

     Birth Date: 10 Dec 1901 - Tottenham, Middlesex ¹³⁶⁹
    Christening: 
          Death: 22 Jun 1949 -  ( aged 47) ¹³⁶⁹
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

1. *Dorothea Ferguson Machin (9 Sep 1902 - 23 May 1987)
       Marriage: 3 Jul 1929 - Broughton Astley, Leicestershire. ¹³⁶⁹
       Children:
                1. Living

Joseph Fowler

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Occupation: Puddler, 4 Sep 1905, Monmouthshire. ¹³⁷⁰

Spouses and Children

       Children:
                1. Rosetta Fowler (Cir 1884-      )

Rosetta Fowler

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1884 ¹³⁷⁰ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: at time of marriage, 4 Sep 1905, Abersychan, Monmouthshire. ¹³⁷⁰

Parents

         Father: Joseph Fowler (      -      ) ¹³⁷⁰ 
         Mother:

Spouses and Children

1. *Edward Sayce (Cir 1885 -       ) ¹³⁷¹ 
       Marriage: 4 Sep 1905 - Abersychan, Trevethin, Monmouthshire ¹³⁷⁰

Frederick Francis

      Sex: M

Individual Information

     Birth Date: Cir 1799 - Goytre, Monmouthshire
    Christening: 5 Dec 1799 - Goytre Parish Church, Goytre, Monmouthshire
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:

Parents

         Father: Augustus Price (Cir 1776-      ) ⁵ 
         Mother: Diana Angelina Price (      -      ) ⁵

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