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picture Jessie Milne

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: Abt 1841 - Carmyllie, Forfarshire 1
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Events

Census: 30 Mar 1851, Easthills, Easthill Cotters, Carmyllie, Forfarshire. 1


Parents
         Father: William Milne (1802-1875)
         Mother: Margaret Rutherford (1801-1883)


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John Milne

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 16 Apr 1874 - Mains & Strathmartine, Forfarshire. 2
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Events

Census: 3 Apr 1881, Myreton Cottage, Murroes, Forfarshire.


Parents
         Father: Andrew Milne (1828-1906) 3
         Mother: Annie Keay (1835-1912)


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John Milne

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: Abt 1815 - Brechin, Forfarshire 1
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Occupation: Railway gate keeper. 4

Occupation: Railway wayman, 7 Apr 1861. 5


Spouses and Children
1. *Jane Forbes (Abt 1815 - 5 Sep 1897)
       Marriage: 1 Jun 1839 - Kinnell, Forfarshire 2
       Children:
                1. Christina Milne (1842-      )
                2. Ann Milne (Abt 1843-      )
                3. Mary Milne (Abt 1845-      )
                4. Jean Milne (Abt 1847-      )
                5. Susan Milne (1851-      )
                6. James Milne (Abt 1855-      )
                7. Jemima Milne (1860-      )


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John Anderson Milne

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 8 Apr 1878 - 100 Foundry Lane, Dundee, Forfarshire 6
    Christening: 
          Death: 31 Jan 1921 - Dundee Royal Infirmary, Graham Street, Dundee (Following Accident At Railway). 7
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: Traumatic Rupture Intestines, Septic Paratonisis (?) and Haemmorhage (had been crushed by rail trucks).
           AFN : 
                 

Events

Census: 1881, 87 1/2 Blackscroft, Dundee, Forfarshire. 8

Occupation: Railway signalman, 17 Apr 1903. 9

Occupation: Railway signalman, 22 May 1909, Dundee, Forfarshire. 10

Residence: At time of Isabella Gair Milne's birth, 22 May 1909, 7 Stobswell Road, Dundee. 10

Census: 1911, 2 Apr 1911, 36 Baldovan Terrace, Dundee.

Occupation: Railway Signalman, 2 Apr 1911, Dundee, Forfarshire.

Occupation: Railway goods checker, 1921. 11

Residence: 1921, Graham Street, Dundee, Forfarshire. 11

Occupation: Railway Signalman/Shunter, 30 Jan 1921. 12


Parents
         Father: Charles Milne (1848-1916)
         Mother: Elizabeth Valentine (Abt 1847-1909)

Spouses and Children
1. Isabella Small (Abt 1877 - 5 Apr 1905)
       Marriage: 17 Apr 1903 - 9 Erskine Street, Dundee, Forfarshire 9

2. *Agnes Gair (2 Oct 1875 - 4 Sep 1923)
       Marriage: 13 Apr 1906 - 16 Baffen Street, Dundee, Forfarshire 9
       Children:
                1. John Anderson Milne (1906-1973)
                2. Isabella Gair Milne (1909-1996) 13
                3. Mary Milne (1911-1997)
                4. James Milne (Cir 1913-      )


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John Anderson Milne



      Sex: M
AKA: Jack Milne
Individual Information
          Birth: 1906 - St. Andrew, Dundee, Forfarshire 14
    Christening: 
          Death: 1973 - Dundee, Forfarshire 15
         Burial: 
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Events

Occupation: Railway shunter.

Residence: At time of Isabella Gair Milne's birth, 22 May 1909, 7 Stobswell Road, Dundee. 10 (Occupant)

Census: 1911, 2 Apr 1911, 36 Baldovan Terrace, Dundee.


Parents
         Father: John Anderson Milne (1878-1921)
         Mother: Agnes Gair (1875-1923)

Spouses and Children
1. *Jane McGlashan Harris (       - Cir 1952) 16 
       Marriage: 1929 - St. Clement, Dundee, Forfarshire 16

Notes
General:
Very nice gentle man with a "terrible stutter".

picture Living

      Sex: M

Parents
         Father: Alexander Milne (1888-      )
         Mother: Bella Hoggie Down (Cir 1880-1916)


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John Bannerman Milne



      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 1902 - Dundee, Forfarshire
    Christening: 
          Death: 24 Sep 1968 - Ruthven House, Meigle, Forfarshire 17
         Burial: 26 Sep 1968 - Dundee Crematorium 17
 Cause of Death: 
           AFN : 
                 

Events

Occupation: Entrepreneur (owned a string of cinemas).


Parents
         Father: Charles Milne (Abt 1875-After 1936)
         Mother: Susan Bannerman (      -      ) 18

Notes
General:
John Milne owned a string of cinemas in Scotland from the 1920s/30? onwards. He had nothing when he started and bought his first cinema with his sister, Lizzie. This was successful and he bought out Lizzie's share.
In time he expanded the business to own a large string of cinemas. He bought a country estate (Ruthven House, in Meigle, Angus). My mum (Margaret Fisher) worked there on holidays from university as an assistant. He wanted her to get involved in running the business, but this didn't work out (mum thought it would have been a bad idea anyway).

She had her first driving lesson in a Rolls Royce in a field on the Estate!

At one point he told mum that he had so much money that he wasn't even able to spend the interest he was earning on his money!

From the web . . . with a few bits added in by me . . .
"John Bannerman Milne was born one of three sons of Charles Milne, a Dundee coalmerchant, in 1902. When he was nine, he bought his first violin. By the age of sixteen, he was working at Dura Works (a jute mill) from 5.30am to 6.00pm, teaching the violin from 6.00pm to 8.00pm and then playing in a dance hall until midnight.
His first entertainment job was at the Variety Theatre, Dundee, as a 19 shillins a week "musical director and cleaner". He eventually bought the theatre in 1925 for 360 (actually with his sister, Lizzie, though this is not mentioned on the web - my mum told me this!), installed "talkies", and never looked back. Within ten years he . . . presided over a theatre, cinema and bingo empire that stretched from Stornaway to Galashiels . . .
The dance was devised by Angus Fitchet who dedicated it to J.B. Milne as "the man who gave him his start in his show business career".

Some other stuff - he bought Lizzie out at some point early on and then expanded his "empire" - he died in 1968 - never married and lived in Ruthven Hall, near Meigle. He taught my mum to drive in a Rolls Royce in a field on his estate and also once told her in conversation that he had more money than he knew what to do with - he couldn't even manage to spend the interest on his money, no matter how hard he tried! JB left the money to his nephews (sons of his brother Charlie), although not to his niece (Charlie's daughter). He left Ruthven to Mabel Easton, his housekeeper, for the duration of her life - on her death it was to revert to his nephews.

There had been various stories linking JB to his housekeeper and other women. He was incapable of fathering children after an earlier accident. There are rumours that he had an "illegitimate" son - I have no evidence to confirm or deny the above, not knowing when this accident occurred.

JB invited my grandfather (Joe Fisher) to Ruthven after Joe had suffered a serious heart attack, in order to recuperate and in this period the men got to know each other well. This is the source of the story regarding JBs accident and its consequences (Above).


Research:
From the Dundee Courier and Advertiser of 25 September 1968

Mr J B Milne dies at age 66

Mr J B Milne, who was a millboy with ambition, died yesterday at his home,
Ruthven House, Meigle, aged 66, as head of Scotland?s largest private cinema
chain.

He had been ill for some time.

His first cinema was the Palladium, Dundee, where he once played the violin
and washed floors. When he died he controlled 34 cinemas and bingo halls.

John Bannerman Milne was one of three sons of the late Mr Charles Milne, a
Dundee coal merchant.

When he was nine he bought his first violin and by the age of 16 he was
working in Dura Works from 5.30 am to 6 pm, teaching the violin from 6 pm to
8 pm, then playing in a dance hall until midnight.

Mr Milne became an apprentice engineer, but his future lay in the
entertainment world.

His first entertainment job was at the Variety Theatre, later the Palladium,
and later the Rex, until it was demolished.

He was a 19s a week ?musical director and cleaner?. His savings were
invested in a motor hire business, which he sold for 360 to found his
cinema empire.

In 1928 Mr Milne bought the hall where he once worked. He had the vision to
install talkies and never looked back.

Within 10 years, he had the largest cinema chain under private ownership in
Scotland. Mr Milne recognised the potential of bingo and introduced it. Some
of his halls remained cinemas, some became bingo halls, some combined the
two.

Mr Milne bought Ruthven House, a 32-room Adam-designed manor, complete with
its furnishings in 1946. A 1500-acre estate went with it.

Citizen award

But he did not forget his home town, where he had his offices at Bannerman
House, South Tay Street. In 1961, he presented his ?Citizen of the Year?
award to Dundee Corporation for annual presentation.

Mr Milne?s interests ranged from Stornoway to Galashiels. He, at one time,
owned the Kinnaird and the Capitol, Dundee.

The cinemas and bingo halls he owned include ?
Royalty, Ritz, State, Broadway, Victoria in Dundee; Regal, Broughty Ferry;
Palace and Picture House, Arbroath; King?s and Playhouse, Montrose; Picture
House, Cowdenbeath; Opera House, Lochgelly; Palace and Imperial, Methil;
Troxy and Regent, Leven; Regal, Blairgowrie; Scala, Cupar and County,
Kinross.

He also owned the Picture House, Tayport; Regal, Auchterarder; Regal, East
Wemyss and the Globe, Buckhaven, which are now closed.


So, that settles the question of his full name, then ? John Bannerman Milne?
Almost, but the official intimation of his death in the same day?s paper
gives:

Milne, at Ruthven House, Meigle on Thursday September 24 1968, John McLeod
Bannerman, eldest son of Mr & Mrs Charles Milne. Service in Dundee
Crematorium September 26, 1968 at 2 pm to which all friends are respectfully
invited. No flowers or letters please.

picture Lizzie Milne

      Sex: F
AKA: Elizabeth Milne
Individual Information
          Birth: 
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Parents
         Father: Charles Milne (Abt 1875-After 1936)
         Mother: Susan Bannerman (      -      ) 18

Notes
General:
John Milne owned a string of cinemas in Scotland from the 1920s/30? onwards. He had nothing when he started and bought his first cinema with his sister, Lizzie. This was successful and he bought out Lizzie's share.
In time her brother John expanded the business to own a large string of cinemas. He bought a country estate (Ruthven House, in Meigle, Angus).

picture Margaret Milne

      Sex: F

Individual Information
          Birth: 
    Christening: 17 Apr 1744 - Arbirlot, Forfarshire 20
          Death: 
         Burial: 
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Parents
         Father: William Milne (1719-      )
         Mother: Margaret Milne (Cir 1715-      )


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Margaret Milne

      Sex: F

Individual Information
          Birth: Cir 1715 - Arbirlot, Forfarshire 21
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 
           AFN : 
                 

Spouses and Children
1. *William Milne (3 Jun 1719 -       )
       Marriage: 21 Aug 1736 - Arbirlot, Forfarshire 22
       Children:
                1. William Milne (1736-      )
                2. George Milne (1738-      )
                3. Janet Milne (1742-      )
                4. Margaret Milne (1744-      )
                5. Alexander Milne (1746-      )
                6. David Milne (1748-      )
                7. Elspet Milne (1750-      )
                8. James Milne (1751-      )
                9. Ann Milne (1752-      )
                10. Charles Milne (1754-      )

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Sources


1. 1851 Census, Surety: 3.

2. IGI Family Search website, Surety: 2.

3. Unconfirmed whether the right Andrew Milne, (batch)112816/0145. Surety: 0.

4. Wife's Death Certificate, Surety: 2.

5. 1861 census, Surety: 3.

6. Birth Certificate, Surety: 3.

7. Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 1. .... Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 3.

8. 1881 Census Scotland, Surety: 3.

9. Marriage Certificate, Surety: 3.

10. Birth Certificate Scotland, Surety: 3.

11. Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 2.

12. Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 3. .... Wife's Death Certificate, Surety: 2.

13. From Glascoed people file, Surety: 3. .... Birth Certificate Scotland, Surety: 3.

14. Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 1. .... Birth indexes, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
M
1906
282/4 558
St Andrew (Dundee). Surety: 3.

15. Death indexes, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
66
1973
350/ 327
Dundee. Surety: 3.

16. Marriage index, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
HARRIS
JANE MCGLASHAN
1929
282/2 296
St Clement. Surety: 2.

17. Dundee Courier, Surety: 4.

18. Marriage index, Surety: 1.

19. Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 3.

20. Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 2. .... IGI Family Search website, Surety: 2.

21. IGI Family Search website, Surety: 0. .... Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 0.

22. Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 2. .... IGI Family Search website, Surety: 1.

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1 1851 Census, Surety: 3.

2 IGI Family Search website, Surety: 2.

3 Unconfirmed whether the right Andrew Milne, (batch)112816/0145. Surety: 0.

4 Wife's Death Certificate, Surety: 2.

5 1861 census, Surety: 3.

6 Birth Certificate, Surety: 3.

7 Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 1. .... Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 3.

8 1881 Census Scotland, Surety: 3.

9 Marriage Certificate, Surety: 3.

10 Birth Certificate Scotland, Surety: 3.

11 Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 2.

12 Death Certificate - Scotland, Surety: 3. .... Wife's Death Certificate, Surety: 2.

13 From Glascoed people file, Surety: 3. .... Birth Certificate Scotland, Surety: 3.

14 Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 1. .... Birth indexes, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
M
1906
282/4 558
St Andrew (Dundee). Surety: 3.

15 Death indexes, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
66
1973
350/ 327
Dundee. Surety: 3.

16 Marriage index, MILNE
JOHN ANDERSON
HARRIS
JANE MCGLASHAN
1929
282/2 296
St Clement. Surety: 2.

17 Dundee Courier, Surety: 4.

18 Marriage index, Surety: 1.

19 Personal recollection - Margaret Pitt, Surety: 3.

20 Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 2. .... IGI Family Search website, Surety: 2.

21 IGI Family Search website, Surety: 0. .... Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 0.

22 Margaret Milne Brown (nee Scott), Surety: 2. .... IGI Family Search website, Surety: 1.


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